{"id":648,"date":"2010-12-19T23:50:29","date_gmt":"2010-12-20T04:50:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/?p=648"},"modified":"2023-05-29T02:41:15","modified_gmt":"2023-05-29T07:41:15","slug":"fandom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/2010\/12\/19\/fandom","title":{"rendered":"Fandom Is Not Blind"},"content":{"rendered":"

At least not when it has any degree of intelligence.<\/p>\n

For example, every time Obama does something most of his supporters don’t like (which is all the time, but more on that in a sec), you get the conservatives and libertarians acting all like “see, see, and you all thought he was so great!” Or, a few years ago, liberals showing the conservatives the atrocities of the Iraq War and other shit George W. Bush did, saying they cannot possibly support him now.<\/p>\n

Yeah, it doesn’t quite work that way. Being a fan, whether of a politician, a musician, sports team, or whatever else, does NOT mean blind agreement with each and every single thing they do, say, or believe. It does not mean finding out they said or did something you strongly disagree with means disavowing any and all support (though it might, depending on severity).<\/p>\n

Yes, Obama has done things I do not agree with. And I knew this when I voted for him, when I was glad he won, when I watched his inauguration hopefully. Despite the campaigns making him seem like a second Jesus, nobody (well, again, who has any degree of intelligence [in b4 “LOL that rules out all his supporters!”]) actually thought this about him. He’s still a damn politician, and therefore still going to break promises. Anyone who actually expects to only vote for a politician who is line with their own views and values 200% will then never vote for anyone and is an idiot.
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\nThere’s a feminist blog I read now and then, The Curvature<\/a>. She blogs about, of course, feminism, as well as the Beatles. She’s a huge fan of John Lennon. But, as she states several times, “John was an asshole”. She’s still a fan of him and the rest of the Beatles, despite occasionally observing times they were misogynist, racist, or whatever else. Yet she is still a Beatles fan!<\/p>\n

Right now, I’m watching My Big Fat Greek Wedding, incredibly funny movie! Of course, there are issues with it. There isn’t much of a plot. It still has the air that Toula is supposed to get married, even if that marriage wasn’t quite what her family expected. But it’s enjoyable anyway.<\/p>\n

I’m sure no Eagles fans support what that asshole Michael Vick did to those dogs, yet they support the team in spite of it.<\/p>\n

Many NYRA members don’t totally support everything NYRA stands for (whether that we go too far or don’t go far enough) yet they still stick with us.<\/p>\n

Many Jews and\/or supporters of Israel still may condemn the flotilla attack and other Israeli atrocities.<\/p>\n

And don’t even get me started on all the things that happen on the Simpsons that I choose to overlook because I still like the show so much!<\/p>\n

And, of course, which sort of inspired me to write this, are the people who still support Wikileaks, yet also believe Julian Assange is an asshat rapist. The people who may still be fans of Michael Moore and Keith Olbermann despite their major fuck ups in the whole thing. The people who still identify as progressives despite many leading progressives taking the rape apology stance regarding Assange.<\/p>\n

Here’s a good quote<\/a>:<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve seen Rosemary\u2019s Baby, but I still think drugging and raping a 13-year-old is wrong. I can believe that a radically honest and open government is better for everyone, and I can still think that people who hold women down and forceably have sex with them against their will should go to prison. And you can even be a bleeding heart, pro-union pinko liberal like me and still know that Keith Olbermann and Michael Moore got this really, really wrong.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is all not to say that these failings aren’t still dealbreakers for some people. They absolutely are. For SOME individual people who decided as such. For others they are not, for reasons those individual people decided. But nothing is required across the board, because nothing and no one is perfect, and everyone has different and oftentimes uneven thresholds for what is and isn’t forgivable or at least overlookable (is that a word?).<\/p>\n

So remaining a fan or supporter of someone or something does not at all require or mean blind agreement with everything about them or it. Fans and supporters are very aware of the faults of the object of their admiration, yet their support remains, because, in a nutshell, it beats an alternative.<\/p>\n

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At least not when it has any degree of intelligence. For example, every time Obama does something most of his supporters don’t like (which is all the time, but more on that in a sec), you get the conservatives and libertarians acting all like “see, see, and you all thought he was so great!” Or, … Continue reading “Fandom Is Not Blind”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27,23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-648","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-think-about-it"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/648","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=648"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/648\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2273,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/648\/revisions\/2273"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=648"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=648"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=648"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}