{"id":186,"date":"2007-02-28T23:59:15","date_gmt":"2007-03-01T04:59:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/?p=186"},"modified":"2007-03-01T00:01:45","modified_gmt":"2007-03-01T05:01:45","slug":"ownership","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/2007\/02\/28\/ownership","title":{"rendered":"Rights of Ownership"},"content":{"rendered":"

It frightens me a little to see so many folks, especially on the NYRA forums<\/a>, clinging religiously to this idea that your rights and privileges are and should be completely forfeit under the jurisdiction of some other person. Okay, I’m sure that made no sense. Let me explain.
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\nOne example is whenever the subject of public versus private schooling comes up. We’ll have a news story posted about a student’s rights being violated at a private school, and some folks will ring in saying the school has every right to do it. And I’m talking about some serious stuff. Getting suspended for wearing hair a certain way, for one. Getting expelled for making fun of the principal outside of school. Crazy. What happened to free speech rights? Oh, right, they don’t exist. You’re not in a government sponsored institution. You’re in a private school, which in this case is treated like somebody’s house.<\/p>\n

Similarly, it has been argued on our hallowed forums that businesses have every right to not allow kids under 16 in their stores and other such obviously discriminatory rules. Why? It’s their business. They should run it as they want, and if they choose to discriminate amongst their clientele, they have that right. After all, if we don’t like it, we can choose not to shop there.<\/p>\n

Granted, I suppose it is government imposed age restrictions we’re more realistically trying to combat. We just hope the others will follow suit of their own volition.<\/p>\n

But what if the government’s power got severely limited? If we were to get the voting age lowered, the age of majority lowered, and other stuff, then, legally and publicly, age discrimination would be wrong. Or at least the age would be a lot lower. As far as the government is concerned anyway. If it is public property, age discrimination is wrong and illegal. Sweet!<\/p>\n

But a lot of the “owner means god” mentality of our forums members tends to be paired with the idea that government power needs to be nearly eliminated.<\/p>\n

So, if I understand right, we want youth rights, but we realize people, including those who own property and businesses, might not like that idea. While we disagree with them for having that idea, we believe they should be allowed to enforce it on their business property. And in wanting the government more limited, turning public property into private property in many cases, then there would be more property subject to whatever the prejudicial whim of the owners. And it is already established that, in this case, our fight for youth rights is currently one on a public and government front.<\/p>\n

So, are you people TRYING to make the fight for youth rights even more impossible than it already is?! :dubious:<\/p>\n

I have more on this subject, but I’ll get to it later.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

It frightens me a little to see so many folks, especially on the NYRA forums, clinging religiously to this idea that your rights and privileges are and should be completely forfeit under the jurisdiction of some other person. Okay, I’m sure that made no sense. Let me explain.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-186","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-what-the-hell","category-youth-rights"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=186"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=186"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=186"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.eightminefortress.com\/surewhynot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=186"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}