December 15, 2011

You Thought Otherwise?

Filed under: Christmas Time!,NYRA Happenings,What the hell?,Youth Rights — Katrina @ 1:24 pm

I’ll never understand how there are corporal punishment supporters in NYRA. It’s something that shocked the hell out of me loooong ago when I was new on the forums and found there was anyone in the organization justifying the practice! I mean, in a youth rights context, it should be a no-brainer. One of the most basic aspects of supporting someone’s rights is supporting their right to not be assaulted for supposed “misbehavior”.

Got a reminder of it yesterday when an anti-corporal punishment article was posted to NYRA’s Facebook page. Seriously, click through that and check out all the comments.

Some people are all “WTF? I thought NYRA was only against corporal punishment in schools?!”

*facepalm*

Do they really think our opposition to corporal punishment is about WHO is hitting the kids rather than, you know, the idea of them being hit at all? Or, in general, did they not catch that we’re a “youth rights” organization?

Hell, in 2009, when our opposition to school paddling was added to our Education position paper, someone at the annual meeting out and asked me “this is just for schools, right? so if I had kids, I could still smack them?” I gave him a dirty look that made him recoil a bit and answered plainly “just for schools” and my look that seemed to add “but go fuck yourself”. I mentioned this to Alex later, since that guy was a friend of his, but Alex insisted the guy was joking. Eh, maybe.

While the words “youth rights” can make people think all kinds of different things, many of which way off what we do, you’d think freedom from assault that’s called “discipline” would be obvious. I wonder if these same people join or follow an LGBT org and are surprised they are for same-sex marriage. I wonder if they join or follow an animal rights org and are surprised they are against fur. :lol:

4 Comments

  1. This, like your other articles on this issue, is pretty awesome.

    I just want to let you know that you, and others willing to take a stand against violence against children, are the reason I still have faith in NYRA. 🙂

    Comment by Alexandra — December 23, 2011 @ 10:10 pm

  2. No matter what I do I get cut down at every possible opportunity. Why the fuck have I wasted my whole fucking life sacrificing for this cause if everyone hates me so much? If I’m such a fucking drain on this cause and this organization? If everything I do for this cause is apparently so destructive and harmful? I’m fucking sick of this. I have better things to do than endure years of abuse and sniping.

    Think you can do better? Fucking try it.

    Comment by Alex — December 29, 2011 @ 6:03 pm

  3. Nah. You’re alright. 🙂

    Comment by Katrina — December 29, 2011 @ 7:00 pm

  4. […] You know, there can certainly be some leeway when it comes to people relatively new to the cause. I know when I was first getting involved some issues made me wary until I had the chance to think about and discuss them some more. But some people are determined to be intransigent on some irrational blind spots in their youth rights view. There’s a guy who has been with the movement for years and supports abolishing the voting age but for some reason supports corporal punishment. […]

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